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Old 22-06-2019, 04:44 PM
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Re: Great Services-Great Massages-Great Bonks

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FR for Ruby-517’s Michelle on sat 24 Oct.

Okt: 7/10
Quick respond to initial queries. But then when i reached location, the viet gal i wanted not available. So he kinda pushed the other local gal that he suggested earlier to me.
Location: 8/10
First time try hotel based. Has to walk past counter staff so feel abit paiseh. But then hotel looks geniunely clean. Room is standard size i guess. Still a rather new hotel.

Looks: 7-8/10
Local milf, 33 y/o, has a strong taiwanese accent cos worked there for 2 yrs. The room lighting quite dim, so at first i rate her 8/10, the kind that i like but not considered chio. Go toilet light bright bright, all the blemish also can see, score drop further.
Body: 8/10
Thin, no baby damage but has a slight tummy due to age. Big B cups with small nips. Got some ass.
JG: 8/10
She said is authentic jg/urut batin she learnt in bolehland. Can tell she seems to really know her stuff. But the wholr experience I was hard, so either her level not there or her techniques not good enough. She will explain what the areas she’s pressing entails and affect.
Shower & catbath: SOP
BBBJ: 8/10
One of the better bbbj i had. Good suction, don’t focus only on 1 area and it’s good becos of...
AR: 8/10
She spent some 5-10 mins stimulating down under! She didn’t really stick her tongue in, but will lick around the brown hole, balls n perinum areas.
FJ: 8/10
Despite her age, she’s a little tight. The whole session she has her process one. And it seems to bring me to the edge easily (i usually take quite long for 1 pop). She don’t have much stamina though. But her moans and facial expressions are quite a turn on.

Rtf: Not likely cos originally wanted to try lil princess next door but it didn’t open until i finished. So far she is the only local gal whose service i feel can make it one (out of 4 attempts) so next time will stick to my target of viets.
Bro,
Mind pm me the location of this MP?
And the ML no.

TIA
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Old 22-06-2019, 06:17 PM
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Had a session with Linh at Princess Saigon this afternoon.


Hmmmnn...... she looks so much different from her younger VIP spa days. Maybe motherhood has calm down her lifestyle and made her more mature.
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Old 22-06-2019, 08:03 PM
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Re: Great Services-Great Massages-Great Bonks

Decide to visit Princess Saigon spa after reading about it here past few days. Easy to find as the signboard so big can spot from main road immediately.

Went in and told them 1st time visit. The counter guy arrange mirror parade. Come in 4 girls dressed sexily but not my taste. Wanted to go off but guy say wait.... another group just finish working he will call them down for viewing. 3 girls come in shortly and straight away I zero in on the youngest n prettiest of them.

Her name is Lynn.

She was only 22 year old. Her hometown was in Hanoi and she was in this job some some time already and previously worked at VIP spa back in 2015-2016. Her number there was 238.

She has the cute and shy looks and can easily consider as an SYT. She does not have any tattoos at her body and she has fair skin, very petite, slim and tight body. Her boobs is just a handful for me, not big or small, just nice for her size. She has hairy pussy with nice ass and tight pussy. Her chinese is just ok, not very good. She can only communicate in simple Chinese only. She is patient, friendly and has a very high GFE type.

Took the waterbed service and this this how the fun began.....

Once enter the room, strip off to our clothes. Proceed to the waterbed with my face down. She gave me a good wash on every part of my body. The soap me and do a B2B soap rub for me which is rather similar with those in Thailand. While soapy, she rub the ass hole area that make me feel very shiok, she also gave a short soapy massage on the back of my groin area. I was suprise that at the young age she was really experience. After soapy, she put some ice in her mouth and gave me a good catbath from the leg to back on my ball area and my back. While licking my back, she shake my dick. After the ice, she pour cold sticky liquid to my back area and my dick area, my dick have the urge of want to fuck her immediately, she repeat the process again then follow by hot catbath. She also gave me a good ass rimming in the process that i feel heaven.

After completing the back she ask me to turn over, at that time my dick erected liao. She proceeds to gave me a wash up at the front then follow by a B2B soapy at the front. She did a good soapy for me at my dick that i almost shoot out but i endure. After that, she uses her pussy to rub me. After soapy, she put ice cube and start sucking my nipple, my body, kissing my neck, my cheek and blow air and whispering at my ear. It repeat for the cold sticky liquid process and hot liquid process. After that she pour the cold liquid to main my dick area and then use the hot liquid to massage my dick area. From there, she gave me a good deep throat bbbj. I hold on to the head and mouth fucked her. The feeling was so shiok to have hold and cold and ice cube bbbj on me. I almost cum into her mouth but i tahan it, she gave me a very long solid blow.

After shower, dry myself and I lie face down on the mattress. She gave me some light massage on my back and my leg. After that was told to turn around, at that point of time my lan jiao already wake up and get strong, really for action. We start off with hot frenching and then she start to suck and lick my nipple. The procees to gave me a super long and mind blowing (BBBJ), teasing it. I love it when she suck with pace, long and deep blow, lick and suck on my tools, swirling and twisting my cockhead with her tongue, no rush at all. She know how to control the speed with different movement by licking the side of my balls and licking my inner thighs, the balls and the shaft she also gave me a very good ass rim, i feel so high.

While BBBJ me, I hold on to her head to prevent her hair from dropping and she was sucking my balls smoothly and tenderly. She gave up a sexy and CFM expression, it was like getting a bbbj form a school gal. I mouth fucked her in a fast and furious motion and she suck and lick my dead head in and out, up and down and going deep and hard that make me feel like cumming in her mouth. Luckily i control it. She get a condom and put it on then she start to ride me for a while. Then she switch to cowgal and I thrust her deep in a up and down motion and alternating my speed as I go in deeply and faster, she let us short continuous soft moan. I feel so hot inside that I do not want to stop. After that, I accelerate my speed to the fastest pace and give my last burst of thrusting in different motion as that make her she shivers and she gave up very loud, nice and innocent groan and moan. The expression was like liking a virgin.

Finally I offload my full tank of cum inside the condom. It was really great to fuck. I feel like fucking a innocent school lady. She helps me offload my condom. Clean me and that the end of the session. We dress up and she holds my hand and bring me to the door.

She is willing to please, hardworking and also patient. Those who want to fuck a innocent liking school gal petite syt. She is the one and she is surely worth the money. I will sure return for more fun at that place if have time to spare.

Please treat her nicely and gently with care.

I ask her wechat and she gave me willingly. This is a picture of her I download from her wechat

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Old 22-06-2019, 09:13 PM
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Re: Great Services-Great Massages-Great Bonks

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Decide to visit Princess Saigon spa after

Her name is Lynn.

She was only 22 year old. Her hometown was in Hanoi and she was in this job some some time already and previously worked at VIP spa back in 2015-2016. Her number there was 238.

She has the cute and shy looks and can easily consider as an SYT. She does not have any tattoos at her body and she has fair skin, very petite, slim and tight body. Her boobs is just a handful for me, not big or small, just nice for her size. She has hairy pussy with nice ass and tight pussy. Her chinese is just ok, not very good. She can only communicate in simple Chinese only. She is patient, friendly and has a very high GFE type.

Took the waterbed service and this this how the fun began.....

Once enter the room, strip off to our clothes. Proceed to the waterbed with my face down. She gave me a good wash on every part of my body. The soap me and do a B2B soap rub for me which is rather similar with those in Thailand. While soapy, she rub the ass hole area that make me feel very shiok, she also gave a short soapy massage on the back of my groin area. I was suprise that at the young age she was really experience. After soapy, she put some ice in her mouth and gave me a good catbath from the leg to back on my ball area and my back. While licking my back, she shake my dick. After the ice, she pour cold sticky liquid to my back area and my dick area, my dick have the urge of want to fuck her immediately, she repeat the process again then follow by hot catbath. She also gave me a good ass rimming in the process that i feel heaven.

After completing the back she ask me to turn over, at that time my dick erected liao. She proceeds to gave me a wash up at the front then follow by a B2B soapy at the front. She did a good soapy for me at my dick that i almost shoot out but i endure. After that, she uses her pussy to rub me. After soapy, she put ice cube and start sucking my nipple, my body, kissing my neck, my cheek and blow air and whispering at my ear. It repeat for the cold sticky liquid process and hot liquid process. After that she pour the cold liquid to main my dick area and then use the hot liquid to massage my dick area. From there, she gave me a good deep throat bbbj. I hold on to the head and mouth fucked her. The feeling was so shiok to have hold and cold and ice cube bbbj on me. I almost cum into her mouth but i tahan it, she gave me a very long solid blow.

After shower, dry myself and I lie face down on the mattress. She gave me some light massage on my back and my leg. After that was told to turn around, at that point of time my lan jiao already wake up and get strong, really for action. We start off with hot frenching and then she start to suck and lick my nipple. The procees to gave me a super long and mind blowing (BBBJ), teasing it. I love it when she suck with pace, long and deep blow, lick and suck on my tools, swirling and twisting my cockhead with her tongue, no rush at all. She know how to control the speed with different movement by licking the side of my balls and licking my inner thighs, the balls and the shaft she also gave me a very good ass rim, i feel so high.

While BBBJ me, I hold on to her head to prevent her hair from dropping and she was sucking my balls smoothly and tenderly. She gave up a sexy and CFM expression, it was like getting a bbbj form a school gal. I mouth fucked her in a fast and furious motion and she suck and lick my dead head in and out, up and down and going deep and hard that make me feel like cumming in her mouth. Luckily i control it. She get a condom and put it on then she start to ride me for a while. Then she switch to cowgal and I thrust her deep in a up and down motion and alternating my speed as I go in deeply and faster, she let us short continuous soft moan. I feel so hot inside that I do not want to stop. After that, I accelerate my speed to the fastest pace and give my last burst of thrusting in different motion as that make her she shivers and she gave up very loud, nice and innocent groan and moan. The expression was like liking a virgin.

Finally I offload my full tank of cum inside the condom. It was really great to fuck. I feel like fucking a innocent school lady. She helps me offload my condom. Clean me and that the end of the session. We dress up and she holds my hand and bring me to the door.

She is willing to please, hardworking and also patient. Those who want to fuck a innocent liking school gal petite syt. She is the one and she is surely worth the money. I will sure return for more fun at that place if have time to spare.

Please treat her nicely and gently with care.

I ask her wechat and she gave me willingly. This is a picture of her I download from her wechat


Nice FR. However FR seem familiar , word by word and the construction of sentence seem familiar too.
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Old 23-06-2019, 12:46 AM
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Re: Great Services-Great Massages-Great Bonks

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Originally Posted by KatongCowboy View Post
Decide to visit Princess Saigon spa after reading about it here past few days. Easy to find as the signboard so big can spot from main road immediately.

Went in and told them 1st time visit. The counter guy arrange mirror parade. Come in 4 girls dressed sexily but not my taste. Wanted to go off but guy say wait.... another group just finish working he will call them down for viewing. 3 girls come in shortly and straight away I zero in on the youngest n prettiest of them.

Her name is Lynn.

She was only 22 year old. Her hometown was in Hanoi and she was in this job some some time already and previously worked at VIP spa back in 2015-2016. Her number there was 238.

She has the cute and shy looks and can easily consider as an SYT. She does not have any tattoos at her body and she has fair skin, very petite, slim and tight body. Her boobs is just a handful for me, not big or small, just nice for her size. She has hairy pussy with nice ass and tight pussy. Her chinese is just ok, not very good. She can only communicate in simple Chinese only. She is patient, friendly and has a very high GFE type.

Took the waterbed service and this this how the fun began.....

Once enter the room, strip off to our clothes. Proceed to the waterbed with my face down. She gave me a good wash on every part of my body. The soap me and do a B2B soap rub for me which is rather similar with those in Thailand. While soapy, she rub the ass hole area that make me feel very shiok, she also gave a short soapy massage on the back of my groin area. I was suprise that at the young age she was really experience. After soapy, she put some ice in her mouth and gave me a good catbath from the leg to back on my ball area and my back. While licking my back, she shake my dick. After the ice, she pour cold sticky liquid to my back area and my dick area, my dick have the urge of want to fuck her immediately, she repeat the process again then follow by hot catbath. She also gave me a good ass rimming in the process that i feel heaven.

After completing the back she ask me to turn over, at that time my dick erected liao. She proceeds to gave me a wash up at the front then follow by a B2B soapy at the front. She did a good soapy for me at my dick that i almost shoot out but i endure. After that, she uses her pussy to rub me. After soapy, she put ice cube and start sucking my nipple, my body, kissing my neck, my cheek and blow air and whispering at my ear. It repeat for the cold sticky liquid process and hot liquid process. After that she pour the cold liquid to main my dick area and then use the hot liquid to massage my dick area. From there, she gave me a good deep throat bbbj. I hold on to the head and mouth fucked her. The feeling was so shiok to have hold and cold and ice cube bbbj on me. I almost cum into her mouth but i tahan it, she gave me a very long solid blow.

After shower, dry myself and I lie face down on the mattress. She gave me some light massage on my back and my leg. After that was told to turn around, at that point of time my lan jiao already wake up and get strong, really for action. We start off with hot frenching and then she start to suck and lick my nipple. The procees to gave me a super long and mind blowing (BBBJ), teasing it. I love it when she suck with pace, long and deep blow, lick and suck on my tools, swirling and twisting my cockhead with her tongue, no rush at all. She know how to control the speed with different movement by licking the side of my balls and licking my inner thighs, the balls and the shaft she also gave me a very good ass rim, i feel so high.

While BBBJ me, I hold on to her head to prevent her hair from dropping and she was sucking my balls smoothly and tenderly. She gave up a sexy and CFM expression, it was like getting a bbbj form a school gal. I mouth fucked her in a fast and furious motion and she suck and lick my dead head in and out, up and down and going deep and hard that make me feel like cumming in her mouth. Luckily i control it. She get a condom and put it on then she start to ride me for a while. Then she switch to cowgal and I thrust her deep in a up and down motion and alternating my speed as I go in deeply and faster, she let us short continuous soft moan. I feel so hot inside that I do not want to stop. After that, I accelerate my speed to the fastest pace and give my last burst of thrusting in different motion as that make her she shivers and she gave up very loud, nice and innocent groan and moan. The expression was like liking a virgin.

Finally I offload my full tank of cum inside the condom. It was really great to fuck. I feel like fucking a innocent school lady. She helps me offload my condom. Clean me and that the end of the session. We dress up and she holds my hand and bring me to the door.

She is willing to please, hardworking and also patient. Those who want to fuck a innocent liking school gal petite syt. She is the one and she is surely worth the money. I will sure return for more fun at that place if have time to spare.

Please treat her nicely and gently with care.

I ask her wechat and she gave me willingly. This is a picture of her I download from her wechat


Thanks for sharing..... have some questions...

Where is this Princess Saigon located?
What is her work number there?
Wats the damage?
Any wechat or contact to call?
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Old 23-06-2019, 04:34 AM
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Her name is Lynn.

She was only 22 year old. Her hometown was in Hanoi and she was in this job some some time already and previously worked at VIP spa back in 2015-2016. Her number there was 238.

This is a picture of her I download from her wechat


Are you sure she is ex-VIP girl 238?
Coz the 238 that I know is different from her.
This is the VIP 238...

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Are you sure she is ex-VIP girl 238?
Coz the 238 that I know is different from her.
This is the VIP 238...

Yes she is the 238 back then in 2016.
Refer to the 2 link below for my FR on her.

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Thanks for sharing..... have some questions...

Where is this Princess Saigon located?
What is her work number there?
Wats the damage?
Any wechat or contact to call?
I don't know where this princess Saigon spa is but I think is referring to little Saigon sentosa. Correct me if I m wrong
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Took the waterbed service and this this how the fun began.....

Once enter the room, strip off to our clothes. Proceed to the waterbed with my face down. She gave me a good wash on every part of my body. The soap me and do a B2B soap rub for me which is rather similar with those in Thailand. While soapy, she rub the ass hole area that make me feel very shiok, she also gave a short soapy massage on the back of my groin area. I was suprise that at the young age she was really experience. After soapy, she put some ice in her mouth and gave me a good catbath from the leg to back on my ball area and my back. While licking my back, she shake my dick. After the ice, she pour cold sticky liquid to my back area and my dick area, my dick have the urge of want to fuck her immediately, she repeat the process again then follow by hot catbath. She also gave me a good ass rimming in the process that i feel heaven.

After completing the back she ask me to turn over, at that time my dick erected liao. She proceeds to gave me a wash up at the front then follow by a B2B soapy at the front. She did a good soapy for me at my dick that i almost shoot out but i endure. After that, she uses her pussy to rub me. After soapy, she put ice cube and start sucking my nipple, my body, kissing my neck, my cheek and blow air and whispering at my ear. It repeat for the cold sticky liquid process and hot liquid process. After that she pour the cold liquid to main my dick area and then use the hot liquid to massage my dick area. From there, she gave me a good deep throat bbbj. I hold on to the head and mouth fucked her. The feeling was so shiok to have hold and cold and ice cube bbbj on me. I almost cum into her mouth but i tahan it, she gave me a very long solid blow.

After shower, dry myself and I lie face down on the mattress. She gave me some light massage on my back and my leg. After that was told to turn around, at that point of time my lan jiao already wake up and get strong, really for action. We start off with hot frenching and then she start to suck and lick my nipple. The procees to gave me a super long and mind blowing (BBBJ), teasing it. I love it when she suck with pace, long and deep blow, lick and suck on my tools, swirling and twisting my cockhead with her tongue, no rush at all. She know how to control the speed with different movement by licking the side of my balls and licking my inner thighs, the balls and the shaft she also gave me a very good ass rim, i feel so high.

While BBBJ me, I hold on to her head to prevent her hair from dropping and she was sucking my balls smoothly and tenderly. She gave up a sexy and CFM expression, it was like getting a bbbj form a school gal. I mouth fucked her in a fast and furious motion and she suck and lick my dead head in and out, up and down and going deep and hard that make me feel like cumming in her mouth. Luckily i control it. She get a condom and put it on then she start to ride me for a while. Then she switch to cowgal and I thrust her deep in a up and down motion and alternating my speed as I go in deeply and faster, she let us short continuous soft moan. I feel so hot inside that I do not want to stop. After that, I accelerate my speed to the fastest pace and give my last burst of thrusting in different motion as that make her she shivers and she gave up very loud, nice and innocent groan and moan. The expression was like liking a virgin.

Finally I offload my full tank of cum inside the condom. It was really great to fuck. I feel like fucking a innocent school lady. She helps me offload my condom. Clean me and that the end of the session. We dress up and she holds my hand and bring me to the door.

She is willing to please, hardworking and also patient. Those who want to fuck a innocent liking school gal petite syt. She is the one and she is surely worth the money. I will sure return for more fun at that place if have time to spare.

Please treat her nicely and gently with care.
Wow, your FR word by word. Sentence by sentence the same as what was posted year back at 13 Aug 2016.

Refer to the 2 links below on my FR for G238:
https://sbf.rocks/showpost.php?...&postcount=140
https://sbf.rocks/showpost.php?...&postcount=141

I think I need to charge copyright fee liao.
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Are you sure she is ex-VIP girl 238?
Coz the 238 that I know is different from her.
Actually both of you are correct. Both girls were ex-VIP using no. 238
The girl in red was the original 238.
The girl in blue was the 2nd 238.
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I don't know where this princess Saigon spa is but I think is referring to little Saigon sentosa. Correct me if I m wrong
Princess Saigon spa is located at 29 Jln Perisai using the premises of the former Little Saigon Massage shop.
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Princess Saigon spa is located at 29 Jln Perisai using the premises of the former Little Saigon Massage shop.
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Went to VIP spa yesterday as it was raining heavily snd Sentosa Plaza had sheltered carpark.

Did not use any facilities as mirror parade about to start when we arrived. Quickly change and went to view. Saw a lineup of 10-12 girls but I think the better ones already chosen as I saw some girls entering the inner door with customers. Asked the captain to recommend..... knn he say all their girls is good one .... tell me to ownself choose. Overheard next table customer ask which girl can do AJ and reply was A7 so I quickly grab her first.

Name: Meng (A7)



Looks: 6/10
Boobs: 3/10 A (a disappointment as look quite big during mirror but only A cup when undressed)
Body: 5/10 (chubby pear shape)
BBBJ: 8/10 (hot/cold and super long time on it)
B2B: SOP routine
DATY: Yes (can finger both holes while eating her abalone... wet easily)
CIM: Allowed (but never try as I wanted AJ)
FJ: ?? She ask me to enter raw (as she only had 1 condom and must use that condom for AJ).... but I refused to do her raw
Anal : Yes
Total damage: RM278

On the way to the room I ask her she really do AJ ah?.... she reply you want I can give
Can speak mandarin and overall service is good. She work at VIP more than 2 yrs already. After B2B she asked if it was enough and asked if i wanted more. From the waterbed she ask to move to the bed.... I ask why cannot do at waterbed she cheekily reply my turn to service her...lol
After both of us towel dry she lie down on the bed and spread open her legs. I understood what she want and went daty until she so wet and shiok. No objection when I insert thumb into her pussy and middle finger into her anus simultanously while daty her but her moans become louder. Then she got up and want to fuck..... I ask to wear condom before entry.... that's when she tell me no need just put it in. When I insist to have condom.... she show me 1 condom and say condom is for anal as she only have 1 condom. Can tell she was horny as she kept rubbing & fingering her pussy. So I helped her by giving her another round of daty until she squirmed and came. Then I capped and doggy her ass until I unloaded.


RTF : NO! because I scared of ladies that do raw although her service was good.

P.S - Dunno if it is the stage lighting or photoshop but the girls on mirror parade look worse than their pictures on telegram.
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Went to VIP spa yesterday as it was raining heavily snd Sentosa Plaza had sheltered carpark.

eed just put it in. When I insist to have condom.... she show me 1 condom and say


RTF : NO! because I scared of ladies that do raw although her service was good.

P.S - Dunno if it is the stage lighting or photoshop but the girls on mirror parade look worse than their pictures on telegram.
Very funny. If mirror not suitable why still take.
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Very funny. If mirror not suitable why still take.
I think because he wants AJ so just anyhow grab
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