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Old 13-11-2021, 05:48 AM
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Tips on being a SD

hi guys, am wondering about this and i have a few questions:

1. I guess some SD dun want sex, but most SD do right? I am only keen on getting SB with sex + fun companionship. Is this normal?

2. No need for normal days communication. Its a bit ironic that i want the gfe but got no time to invest in communication. but this isnt about a RS, more like a transaction with some gfe. How do you strike the balance here?

3. PPM - seems very fair on both side to do PPM on a recurring basis. Is this the norm?

4. Personal info - how do u protect ur personal info? separate phone number?

5. How much emotions do u put in?
If the gfe is too strong, will it mess ur mind n heart?

6. Helping beyond the monetary aspect
This is a very vague term. I read some SD provides connections to SB. I dun think i want my associates to know i have a SB if I have one. Social capital is really precious, how do u handle this?

Do SD go the extra mile to help SB to say start their own businesses etc?

7. Is the SD SB relationship exclusive? I guess STD is a main issue here. Do SD and SB have protected sex?

8. Any stories of SD falling in love with SB? Im quite an emotional guy sometimes.

9. What is the estimated market rate for local SG girls for the PPM model (or any other arrangement)?
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Old 13-11-2021, 01:30 PM
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Re: Tips on being a SD

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Firstly Id like to mention that your post about stopping all this nonsense and focus on making money was not even 2 mths ago, seems you are not exactly one minded about leaving the whole cheong scene behind.

As to your question. Yes majority Sd expect sex, but there will be a few old sd with money but little time ie near death or maybe due to work who want someone just to listen to them and not judge or nag them like their wives so these guys spoil market. Or there could be Sd who are timid, they want sex but dont dare initiate and a unscrupulous sb will take advantage of this.

yes i totally understand your point you want the sex and the gfe/ pretext of a relationship forthe 1,2, 3 hrs that you need it, you dont want to have to continually contact her ask how she is pretend to care for the rest of the day the way you have to with a gf in a relationship.

ppm is very fair but sb dont like this because sb is inherently a scam or manipulation of unfair relationship. It basically manipulates guys who dont want the stigma or the perception they are having sex with a unclean girl, they want the feeling they are specials and they are the only one. Truth is most sb are ex WL ML, or even current ones, are plain janes who want to earn more without having to be a WL with the risks involved, and generally most sb will have more than 1 sd.

personal info, you can give as little or as much as you want why use phone number why not communicate by telegram or whatever. in your case you said you financially free, means no boss self employed, from your posts no wife etc so why care if she knows your name and number etc, i wouldnt give facebook or home address if yu dont want your family friends to know.

If your are worried about getting emotionally involved when you 40, then you probably haven't had enough sex with strangers so that you can delineate sex and love. Try having sex with 1000 WL then you will realize sex is just that what is so special and unique about a sb that makes her worthy of your love. I might be a sociopath, but i really cant see how a women involved in the sex industry is worth me risking 7 figures in a property division.

The next few questions i feel i have answered as to market price, there are sb who claim to be ex air stewardess, there are ones who are in their 40s and claim to be nurses, there are plain jane 20 yr old, there are guys willing to pay 2k mth there are guys willing to pay 10k month all these elements makes it impossible to say market price unles syou narrow down parameters
thanks a lot for your time! This is a really helpful post.

For the other thread, i am indeed out of action. And my prob is low libido. haha

But SB appeals to me as it doesnt seem to be just a transaction. Im hitting 40 next year and i really miss my younger days when i go dating and have lotsa fun.


thanks for clearing up, I thought SB are really just girls in some financial woes who hold a normal full time job. If they are just ex or current WL, then i see no point in having such an arrangement.

Was thinking about a SD SB rs where there is some care and concern (albeit a superficial one).

for the emotions part, I did cheong a lot in my 20s but even then, maybe becos of my own experience in life, I am quite soft hearted with people.

Ideally (i guess the below is not practical), looking for a SB who is pretty and has the drive to want to improve her life. Apart from paying for her, I do hope it can be a memorable experience where the memories stay for life as opposed to just pure sex.

For me, im not really a fan of pretty girls who just wanna KC. I know I sound contradictory again here again as this RS is based on finances fundamentally but this doesnt mean it cannot be a happy and enjoyable experience (more than sex).

And yeah for the privacy part, thanks a lot for the tip!

Also, do you generally go to 4-5 star hotels for the meetups or do you have a spare apartment? was thinking if its a regular thing might as well rent a studio for this

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Old 13-11-2021, 01:45 PM
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Re: Tips on being a SD

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Personally I think the whe SB/sd thing is a chumps game. I like yourself am in my 40s I'm in good shape regularly date 20 yr olds for companionship or more. I'm financially independent ie no boss or work time commitments, but even then when I want the sure thing rather than the probability with dating I have a full roster of young ladies I can call upon who will happily have sex with me for the cost of a meal I would have incurred whilst dating. Obviously I am fully retired overseas.
Sample of a few I met since covid risk has dropped where I am.
Granted my preference is for the thrill of variety rather than the same old thing

sorry i lost u there.

For ur pool of SB, everyone is one a PPM basis right? So sometimes u might meet a girl more frequently and other time no?

U mentioned u are retired overseas, are you based overseas now?
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Re: Tips on being a SD

All actually very good questions and the answers are all the same...it depends.

Do most SD want sex? Most definitely. You have to be terribly lonely to pay someone to just have dinner with you. For me sex and payment are linked. No sex, no allowance. There are a few delusional SBs (usually the 18-20 type) who think they can get money just for sending occasional text messages. But they soon learn to put out or get out of the sugar bowl.

As for how much to pay and for what it really depends. I have a wife who fully supports my need to play and prefers I get a sugar baby rather than a mistress. I keep it simple, PPM every couple of weeks or so, no real communication between meets. The dates are multi hour and usually include a meal. I give her 350 but my total cost including hotel and food is usually about 500+ per date.

But I have had other SB deals that were more fuzzy where I helped with expenses and we communicated regularly so more like a semi girlfriend that I helped out. That was not PPM nor monthly allowance.

You have to decide what works for both of you and find the right one for the fit. Join SA, go on a few meet and greets (never pay for those) and see what happens.
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Re: Tips on being a SD

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All actually very good questions and the answers are all the same...it depends.

Do most SD want sex? Most definitely. You have to be terribly lonely to pay someone to just have dinner with you. For me sex and payment are linked. No sex, no allowance. There are a few delusional SBs (usually the 18-20 type) who think they can get money just for sending occasional text messages. But they soon learn to put out or get out of the sugar bowl.

As for how much to pay and for what it really depends. I have a wife who fully supports my need to play and prefers I get a sugar baby rather than a mistress. I keep it simple, PPM every couple of weeks or so, no real communication between meets. The dates are multi hour and usually include a meal. I give her 350 but my total cost including hotel and food is usually about 500+ per date.

But I have had other SB deals that were more fuzzy where I helped with expenses and we communicated regularly so more like a semi girlfriend that I helped out. That was not PPM nor monthly allowance.

You have to decide what works for both of you and find the right one for the fit. Join SA, go on a few meet and greets (never pay for those) and see what happens.

Thanks a lot! The best part of ur marriage is ur wife allows u to do it. Amazing.
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Re: Tips on being a SD

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All actually very good questions and the answers are all the same...it depends.

Do most SD want sex? Most definitely. You have to be terribly lonely to pay someone to just have dinner with you. For me sex and payment are linked. No sex, no allowance. There are a few delusional SBs (usually the 18-20 type) who think they can get money just for sending occasional text messages. But they soon learn to put out or get out of the sugar bowl.

As for how much to pay and for what it really depends. I have a wife who fully supports my need to play and prefers I get a sugar baby rather than a mistress. I keep it simple, PPM every couple of weeks or so, no real communication between meets. The dates are multi hour and usually include a meal. I give her 350 but my total cost including hotel and food is usually about 500+ per date.

But I have had other SB deals that were more fuzzy where I helped with expenses and we communicated regularly so more like a semi girlfriend that I helped out. That was not PPM nor monthly allowance.

You have to decide what works for both of you and find the right one for the fit. Join SA, go on a few meet and greets (never pay for those) and see what happens.
Btw what is the difference btw a SB and a mistress to u?
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Re: Tips on being a SD

I use SB and SA as the go-to app for this. Usually i go for PPM which means pay per meetup. A few SB I went on a monthly rate but usually for 2-3 months max due to fact I'm not so financially established yet like the real hardcore players.

Most of the SB are for sex, so at most a meetup with meal on me, then to the hotel that I've booked. Usually I'll get at least a 3-star hotel, so that I can "work from hotel" while waiting for my SB to arrive, especially on workdays. Lots of SB with age ranging from 18-30s on the sites, mostly I tend to find poly or uni girls. Damage is pretty competitive given how local FL rate on this forum has blown out of proportion. Some SB prefer a few lunch/dinner dates before they "get intimate". So if your goal is sex, I suggest skip these kind of SB cause some of them just "lead you on" that they'll give intimacy from 3rd date onwards but after 2 dates the 3rd date might never happen. For me my goal is pretty clear so I only meet those that are able to do intimate dates from 1st meetup. For intimate details, I would say it's a hit and miss with mostly being a hit. Most SB on these sites would be students freelancing for additional cash, or part timers in nightlife industry. They seem pretty more game to try certain things that I think some agency FL don't.

Post meetup of course if theres chemistry, I usually wouldn't mind giving some free career advice etc.. My 2 cents.

Tips:
1) never transfer money upfront. always per upon meetup.
2) like normal chionging, recommended to have a chiong phone
3) like normal chionging, try to separate feelings / love from chionging
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Btw what is the difference btw a SB and a mistress to u?
Emotional connection.
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Re: Tips on being a SD

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I use SB and SA as the go-to app for this. Usually i go for PPM which means pay per meetup. A few SB I went on a monthly rate but usually for 2-3 months max due to fact I'm not so financially established yet like the real hardcore players.

Most of the SB are for sex, so at most a meetup with meal on me, then to the hotel that I've booked. Usually I'll get at least a 3-star hotel, so that I can "work from hotel" while waiting for my SB to arrive, especially on workdays. Lots of SB with age ranging from 18-30s on the sites, mostly I tend to find poly or uni girls. Damage is pretty competitive given how local FL rate on this forum has blown out of proportion. Some SB prefer a few lunch/dinner dates before they "get intimate". So if your goal is sex, I suggest skip these kind of SB cause some of them just "lead you on" that they'll give intimacy from 3rd date onwards but after 2 dates the 3rd date might never happen. For me my goal is pretty clear so I only meet those that are able to do intimate dates from 1st meetup. For intimate details, I would say it's a hit and miss with mostly being a hit. Most SB on these sites would be students freelancing for additional cash, or part timers in nightlife industry. They seem pretty more game to try certain things that I think some agency FL don't.

Post meetup of course if theres chemistry, I usually wouldn't mind giving some free career advice etc.. My 2 cents.

Tips:
1) never transfer money upfront. always per upon meetup.
2) like normal chionging, recommended to have a chiong phone
3) like normal chionging, try to separate feelings / love from chionging
what is the max number of SB u have at any one time?

btw may i know how old are you? Do SB have a cut off age for SD in general? like max +10 or 15 years older?

In general i get the sensing that the younger generation seems to be receptive to being a SB?
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what is the max number of SB u have at any one time?

btw may i know how old are you? Do SB have a cut off age for SD in general? like max +10 or 15 years older?

In general i get the sensing that the younger generation seems to be receptive to being a SB?
One at a time. I guess it depends on individual. Younger gen Z might be more receptive cause apps like SB/SA are available now. I mean,a decade ago there werent such apps right?
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One at a time. I guess it depends on individual. Younger gen Z might be more receptive cause apps like SB/SA are available now. I mean,a decade ago there werent such apps right?
true that. have u ever gotten emotional with ur SB? or u take it purely to satisfy ur sexual needs?
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Btw what is the difference btw a SB and a mistress to u?
SB is pay on basis of just sex, non-meet time is each on your own. Mistress is really someone to provide gfe but quite financially dependent on you, i would expect her to demand you to pay almost everything whenever and wherever possible.
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Re: Tips on being a SD

I think your post title should read Questions on being a SD.

"Tips on being a SD" means you are sharing tips with other potential SDs.
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Re: Tips on being a SD

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All actually very good questions and the answers are all the same...it depends.

Do most SD want sex? Most definitely. You have to be terribly lonely to pay someone to just have dinner with you. For me sex and payment are linked. No sex, no allowance. There are a few delusional SBs (usually the 18-20 type) who think they can get money just for sending occasional text messages. But they soon learn to put out or get out of the sugar bowl.

As for how much to pay and for what it really depends. I have a wife who fully supports my need to play and prefers I get a sugar baby rather than a mistress. I keep it simple, PPM every couple of weeks or so, no real communication between meets. The dates are multi hour and usually include a meal. I give her 350 but my total cost including hotel and food is usually about 500+ per date.

But I have had other SB deals that were more fuzzy where I helped with expenses and we communicated regularly so more like a semi girlfriend that I helped out. That was not PPM nor monthly allowance.

You have to decide what works for both of you and find the right one for the fit. Join SA, go on a few meet and greets (never pay for those) and see what happens.
SA? some of them wants $3000 - $5000 per mth leh
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3rd one looks good!
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