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Re: Trying to get over an ML

You are right. Rich man game better don’t play. They can get chop get kc many times still alive and standing. If you are normal man this kind of gal will destroy your life.
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Re: Trying to get over an ML

Humans do have sexual & companion needs. It is within our genes, & no matter how hard one tries, the urge for gratification will always be there. It's only normal.

What is NOT normal if we force such needs upon others whom are not willing to share such needs, or force ourselves UNNATURALLY to resolve such gratifications, eg - beyond financial means, beyond focus at work or family, etc.

Singapore is a capitalist Democracy, but with a touch of socialism that explains for mandatory CPF contributions from employers & HDB homes for everyone, unlike other capitalist nations that left citizens in slums such as India, Philippines, etc.

It cannot be such that ONLY the rich are allowed to gratify their sexual needs. The average income in Spore is between $3000 to $5000. What about the many whom are below that average, & foreign workpass holders? Are they to become monks?

Sexual needs may be a taboo subject for strait laced leaders, but nevertheless it had not been overlooked, in the face of dangers to womanhood-wives, daughters,- who may either have to cover up themselves & go to seed without a care to their health, growing obese & not taking care about their once appealing looks, to protect themselves.

Thus Geylang was born, offering a cheaper & socially healthy alternative to release the excessive hormones in males, rather than let those hormones corrupt the mind & render the male useless & unproductive in contribution to society.

Unfortunately due to COVid 19 fears based not on science, Geylang was shut down. Opportunistic nightlife operators, especially the bosses, seized upon this chance of low supply but high natural demand & as a result, many average & below average Sporean males are being fleeced & scammed by them, in many ways both illegal & legal.

This is a dangerous situation for society & unhealthy. Already molestation cases are on the rise - where males with good prospects in life have to resort to societal criminal means to satisfy their urges, & losing hope for a brighter future.

Education plays a part to ease such urges, but it will need a genetic change within the male body to alter such genes, & it is not within our knowledge to do so yet. This forum can only do so much to help & advise. Opening up geylang & allowing MORE vaccinated foreign ladies who wish to be in this trade on their own free will be a step in the right direction to protect our society.
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Re: Trying to get over an ML

Bro, dun think so much... raw is nothing.

PM me who? I go psycho her and find out if she say she has bf.. lolo
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Re: Trying to get over an ML

TS, you sound like a retarded cheapskate. Dunno why the ML allow you to raw her too.
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Re: Trying to get over an ML

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I am really very sad, and very hard to work today. I want to log in see what she replies after i aeroplaner her, but i know she confirm say things to piss me off or make me 心太软 again, so i just lun and hope for the best.. Until now i still don't know if she fake angry at me as a tactic to make me buy things for her. I also donno why she need to lie say got police check that night.. Maybe she also ask that bro to pay her rent to buy her stuff, then the rich bro agree so fly kite me.
Thanks cdcdcdc for your posts. Your English is good enough. We are no longer British subjects & bow to no one, & need not ape stiff upper lip English. English is internationally versatile, so long as as one can get the message across, it is done, & you did a good job. And your - from the heart & honest outpouring message will help many whom may be in similar situations but know not how to express it here in writing.

Fellow brothers' words can only do so much, but only you alone can help yourself, to get out of this infatuation over her driven by your hormones - genes which we under current science advancement have no ability to change. Thus do know that you are not a pervert in wanting to indulge in satisfying your sexual needs which all hormone driven males have, & furthermore, you had not harm or hurt anyone. So do not allow yourself to be put on a guilt trip.

Some belief in magic - white/black - and claimed some women may have such utility to control men & others. But in REALITY, there is NO magic in this world, only palour tricks or sleight of hand. What actually happened in your case is just an overload of hormones, which is only normal, controlling your mind over her charming presence, words & sexual abilities which you cant find in another, as well as the attention you craved for but never had thru her texting, feeding into your ego.

Many had turned to religion as a solace & help. Buddhism is not a religion, but a way of life. It teaches serenity & peace to troubled minds & help many to let go of troubles in the journey of life. Perhaps you may consider taking up some courses in Buddhism teachings after work, & realize the realities you faced, & find solutions out of your situation.

Scientifically, Hormones activates the mind thru electrical impulses, responsible for cravings. Words too have a way to activate the mind thru electrical impulses, & with wise teachings, it may help to counteract on the hormone driven impulses, empowering you to be one in control of your life & not by any other internal/external events or by other mortals.

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TS, you sound like a retarded cheapskate. Dunno why the ML allow you to raw her too.
No need so mean lah. He is just a very sheltered boy.
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Bro, dun think so much... raw is nothing.

PM me who? I go psycho her and find out if she say she has bf.. lolo
good suggestion ... we all go and raw her ... and ts will know she raws everyone, so can fast getting over ...
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Re: Trying to get over an ML

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Thanks cdcdcdc for your posts. Your English is good enough. We are no longer British subjects & bow to no one, & need not ape stiff upper lip English. English is internationally versatile, so long as as one can get the message across, it is done, & you did a good job. And your - from the heart & honest outpouring message will help many whom may be in similar situations but know not how to express it here in writing.

Fellow brothers' words can only do so much, but only you alone can help yourself, to get out of this infatuation over her driven by your hormones - genes which we under current science advancement have no ability to change. Thus do know that you are not a pervert in wanting to indulge in satisfying your sexual needs which all hormone driven males have, & furthermore, you had not harm or hurt anyone. So do not allow yourself to be put on a guilt trip.

Some belief in magic - white/black - and claimed some women may have such utility to control men & others. But in REALITY, there is NO magic in this world, only palour tricks or sleight of hand. What actually happened in your case is just an overload of hormones, which is only normal, controlling your mind over her charming presence, words & sexual abilities which you cant find in another, as well as the attention you craved for but never had thru her texting, feeding into your ego.

Many had turned to religion as a solace & help. Buddhism is not a religion, but a way of life. It teaches serenity & peace to troubled minds & help many to let go of troubles in the journey of life. Perhaps you may consider taking up some courses in Buddhism teachings after work, & realize the realities you faced, & find solutions out of your situation.

Scientifically, Hormones activates the mind thru electrical impulses, responsible for cravings. Words too have a way to activate the mind thru electrical impulses, & with wise teachings, it may help to counteract on the hormone driven impulses, empowering you to be one in control of your life & not by any other internal/external events or by other mortals.
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Re: Trying to get over an ML

Its a good long read though i like how you lay down thewhole facts in a interesting neutral way. The many of local guy who cannot get any sex from local girls and now foreign girls also not here. We are forced to live without sex, and the dating scene forever challenging. Like you mentioned having a decent pay 3000 to 5000 also is not helping to get sex these days. Where to get sex, theres no place to get sex like before. All the prices are inflated. If foreign worker can get sex from maids and normal beta foreign worker who get no sex can control themselves, local guys can do it too to go without sex and still able to control without resorting to crime.


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Humans do have sexual & companion needs. It is within our genes, & no matter how hard one tries, the urge for gratification will always be there. It's only normal.

What is NOT normal if we force such needs upon others whom are not willing to shar
e such needs, or force ourselves UNNATURALLY to resolve such gratifications, eg - beyond financial means, beyond focus at work or family,
Singapore is a capitalist Democracy, but with a touch of socialism that explains for mandatory CPF contributions from employers & HDB homes for everyone, unlike other capitalist nations that left citizens in slums such as India, Philippines, etc
It cannot be such that ONLY the rich are allowed to gratify their sexual needs. The average income in Spore is between $3000 to $5000. Wha about the many whom are below that average, & foreign workpass holders? Are they to become monks?

Sexual needs may be a taboo subject for strait laced leaders, but nevertheless it had not been overlooked, in the face of dangers to womanhood-wives, daughters,- who may either have to cover up themselves & go to seed without a care to their health, growing obese & not taking care about their once appealing looks, to protect themselves.

Thus Geylang was born, offering a cheaper & socially healthy alternative to release the excessive hormones in males, rather than let those hormones corrupt the mind & render the male useless & unproductive in contribution to society.

Unfortunately due to COVid 19 fears based not on science, Geylang was shut down. Opportunistic nightlife operators, especially the bosses, seized upon this chance of low supply but high natural demand & as a result, many average & below average Sporean males are being fleeced & scammed by them, in many ways both illegal & legal.

This is a dangerous situation for society & unhealthy. Already molestation cases are on the rise - where males with good prospects in life have to resort to societal criminal means to satisfy their urges, & losing hope for a brighter future.

Education plays a part to ease such urges, but it will need a genetic change within the male body to alter such genes, & it is not within our knowledge to do so yet. This forum can only do so much to help & advise. Opening up geylang & allowing MORE vaccinated foreign ladies who wish to be in this trade on their own free will be a step in the right direction to protect our society.

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Its a good long read though i like how you lay down thewhole facts in a interesting neutral way. The many of local guys who cannot get any sex from local girls and now foreign girls also not here. We are forced to live without sex, and the dating scene forever challenging. Like you mentioned having a decent pay 3000 to 5000 also is not helping because local girls wont pity to give us sex even though the freelance are not here.

It kind of screw me up physically and psychologically, hormones drop tremendously, muscle shrink, hair fall, weakness, tiredness. Negative thoughts aplenty. Rreally girls are safest here, if they out of singapore all kinds of nonsense will happen to them. The kind of thoughts developed after 2 years of not having sex abd having no luck with local girls. This has been a suppressed feeling although im normal by public standard.
The insignificant nobody me can understand how you feel. You are most normal. Sex is not everything. For men, it's just a itch that needs to scratched, & after that, it is back to life with no further thoughts till the itch, sadly, comes back again.

It is love, intimacy and companionship that matters, that makes life seem fuller & brighter, someone who is always there in the morning, afternoon & night, thinking & caring about you, compelling you to achieve beyond what you are capable of daily, in return for her efforts. Love..& be loved.

Without such, life still can go own as each has to care about one's own survival - a job, career, etc, but it is often a lonely journey.

Life is not meant to be lonely, regardless if you are a rich man or poor, young or old, white or black, handsome or ugly, etc. All it takes is a REALISTIC 1st step - make friends, based on COMMON INTERESTS - such as work discussions, sports, hobbies, etc, & even drinking at pub after work. From there build up a relationship on common interests, communicate daily, show care & concern.

It may seem tiring, as some may had gone thru such efforts & time, & had been disappointed, & unwilling to try again, & accept the fate of loneliness. However, as the years roll by, loneliness-facing same 4 walls each night, will become unbearable.

It is not how many times a man can take beatings that makes him successful. It is how many times he STANDS BACK UP that makes him successful, a role model, someone to look up upon, to emulate.

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Re: Trying to get over an ML

I just don't see how someone can fall in love with a slut.

It's just a piece of meat for usage and afterwards thrown away.

Why would you even care about a meat that you eaten yesterday?
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As the title suggested, I'm trying to get over an ML, because I've been KC it's damaging for me.

After few visits, I unlocked ML and FJ with her a few times, but start to develop feelings for her and start to feel jealous over small things, like when she is fully book and had no slot to accommodate me, when bros took her out to buy stuff, when she posts photos of herself in other bro's expensive car, when she told me what things bro buy for her and how much they cost etc..

The jealousy has become so bad it affecting my work, i'm neglected my hobbies, neglect spending time with my old age parents, neglecting fitness. I am mid 30s and single btw so forever alone. But she allowing me to FJ makes me feel great about myself. I know last time got xiao pang story, i also scared become like that. Somemore she also let me raw her wor.. But I scared so quickly pull out after a while.. Need to see Dr Tan soon liao.. But why she let me raw her makes me think that there is meaning behind this.. Then xiao pang experience says all working gals are liddat.. Say all the same thing to all bros that they are the only one but actually behind back do to so many other guys T.T

I try to delete her from wechat but can't bear to do so.. Tehn after delete she still come and message me, cos i nv turn on the request permission thing option.. Now i feel like i'm in a loss, i am not sure what to do from here. Go find other MLs also not so right, cos end up still the same outcome. Delete and block her i also can't bear.. Heart painzz..
Brother….your story is extremely common. that is why u need to train your heart b4 playing all these la… always rem as long as you pay $ its just a transaction. no need think about anything else. she will probably have 100s of cocks in her pussy every month. what abt yourself?

come on… be a man and don’t heart pain abt these ridiculous things. Good luck in ur recovery!
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Re: Trying to get over an ML

TS don’t be naive and think these WL will be loving you one and only. They only love your money, unless you look like their hottest idols.

Just have a platter of different MLs, FLs at your contact list and rotate them around to decrease the KC feelings.

If you want to be more of an asshole, pick a few potential ones, promise heaven and earth, give them some cheaper gifts and get as much benefits as much as possible before disappearing.

Your writing skills are like a 15-16 kid. I hope you are not really one nor are you thinking like one.

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Re: Trying to get over an ML

Whether they market themselves as KTV girls, FL or ML. Ultimately many are hookers. As we continue playing the field, sooner or later its likely to meet one that rocks our world. When that happens , consider the thousands of men that they may have slept with. Are we really Ok with that? Would you be concerned if you bring her to a gathering and get weird looks from your friends or relatives? Wear the condoms and keep our hearts locked at home when we play. Being a hooker romeo does no good for the girl or ourselves in most cases. Can you show her unlimited grace & hold no jealousy? I think not… its not just about the $. Many men are just not built to share sex partners/power/$.
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Re: Trying to get over an ML

The desire for companionship is real as no Human wants to live a lonely life. It is our weakness, & thus easily exploited by others thru our weaknesses, more so for those whom have ulterior motives such as monetary gain, eg-insurance agents.

They would ask for friendly meet ups, & then slowly probe you for your weakness & concerns, & then when find one, they will seize upon it & tailor their insurance policies to meet those needs, & earn from there. However, insurance do serve a purpose & there is a gain for both. For nightlife operators, one can gain nothing from them except for an alleviation of an itch that one's hand can resolve.

It is still a legal transaction - money in return for service rendered for those whom prefer more intimacy than one's own hand. And for those whom are mentally not strong will pay more than money - emotional trauma when one's finances run out & the nightlife operator ends the relationship...

It's all about money. In the real world, companies pay highly for the best minds to help run their biz - degree/MBA holders, experts, etc. But for nightlife operators, even right down to a lone FL, they need not pay a single cent for best minds to help their biz, because the bright minds ARE their paying customers, whom will teach them best practices to be successful. Thus do NOT under-estimate the biz acumen of nightlife operators.

They know, learn & adapt to the best marketing practices & use tech from such help from customers, eg-greeting in the morning thru texting, meet ups for weakness probing, etc. When they send such texts, do know that they are sending to hundred others daily, not just you. It is to Yusoff Ishak that they greet in the morning and not you. It is 'I love Yusoff Ishak' when they say 'I love you'. The biz world is cold & has no love. However, do not blame them. The trade they are in is not their 1st choice, & only need to survive too, as most come from hardship backgrounds. Only blame those who are too greedy and went overboard. Remember our principle- hurt no one & do not be hurt by anyone.

Thus lonely men will not stand a chance against such marketing techniques from nightlife operators which will evolve, & fall prey akin to one parting with hard earned money to buy gizmo when not needed from TV ads.

I do believe SBF aims to be a counter balance to updated scam artistes & emotions' predators - thru an open forum to share experiences, as there are people from all walks of life here - from egalitarian thinking toilet cleaners to high flying & educated career Humans..

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