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Rub&Buah 06-02-2006 08:07 PM

Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Hi,Gd Day to all Bro.

Im Starting this new tread to let all bros Share,Help,Understand or Advise & be more aware of we singaporean wanting or interested to work in bangkok..

I haven been to bangkok For a couple of time..It was a really beautiful country regardless of cheonging,food,girls or the culture..It a wonderful place for a short holiday..But im wondering if any bro here ever thought of working or settling down here?..I suddenly have such thinking during my last trip to bkk while i was walking by myself along the wonderful streets & malls.The Sky is really spectecular on my way to airport along the highway..

After im back,everything goes back to normal & seems boring than before(prehaps my soul still dreaming in bkk)I met some issue at work & my holiday trip(& also someone special i met over there)make a great change in my thinking..Its not a bad idea overall to work in bangkok..Im actually a hairdresser.The fashion culture & hairdressing scene inspire me quite a lot when i was shopping ard the mall..The new generation ppl got quite a great taste in personel groomings..This make me get into the world of fashion in thailand..i calculate before..As a junior i dun earn much in here.living expenses is kinda high in sg,i have nv work in other contry before(which i always wanted to but dont dare or no chance)So why not give a try for 1-2years?If you work in bkk the salary you earn will not be much but living expenses will be lower too.So it work out to be almost the same as sg but i will get to experience different culture & happier(maybe worse?)than my current peaceful but boring life in singapore..The problem is language is a barrier so im going to take up thai language soon..Got to brush up my skill so im able to survive myself in foreign land..

Any brother here shares the same experience or thinking?Pls share watever thought or advise & job opportunities to bro who wish to work in bkk..Hopefully it will be a benificial tread!!Thanks in advance...

Sohni 06-02-2006 09:28 PM

Re: Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rub&Buah
Any brother here shares the same experience or thinking? Pls share watever thought or advise & job opportunities to bro who wish to work in bkk..Hopefully it will be a beneficial tread!! Thanks in advance...

Most people who work/station in BKK belong to 2 categories.

1) Business owner/Trader
2) Employee (Posting to BKK from Singapore office)

Finding a job in BKK itself is a waste of time unless you can accept the crappy Thai wages or you have some special skills. Eg. Scientist, Banker, etc.

Since you're a junior hairdresser. Your only best bet is to do freelance for a start in your own rented apartment (very cheap anyway) and at the same time promote some beauty products.

Here's the downside. Setting/blowing of hair on average is about 100B/S$4.20. Are you able to accept such service fee? Unless you're David Gan's disciple no one is going to pay you designer rates. Also there's a hair salon on every street corner. What makes you think people will come to you? You've to differentiate yourself. I leave the brainstorming part to yourself.

A good way to kick start is to give free service. Hint: Night ladies aka MP girls and club girls. When word gets around that you're 'skillful'. Then slowly business may come in the form of personal stylist. Anyway in fashion/creative line it's all about bullshiting. 20% skills. 30% public relations/marketing. 50% luck. Of course chances will go up even if you can suck the cocks of those influential figures. High percentage are gays and dykes. Kekeke.

Bangkok Master 06-02-2006 09:59 PM

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Just from my humble experience,

If you really die die want to work in Thailand, I suggest you keep yourself prepare these 3 things before you even take any chances:

1) Thai Language - This is the most basic criteria you must have, unless you're the top managment which you got your own translator or you're teaching language. But if you're staying in Thailand doing without knowing how to converse thai might be a handicap.

2) Employment Preparation - If you're planning to try it out in Thailand, the best is to get the job offer or interview from Sg first before going as if you're thinking of going there to find. I can guaranteed you the chances of success is 10% cos you can check out the website of the recruitment agencies, 95% of the ppl that they are looking for is LOCAL THAI why? Becos unless you're specialise or top managment or send from overseas they will not employ u. Firstly they have to pay tax and second in order to employ a FARANG, the company must have assets of 2million baht per head and third they will have to pay u a higher salary (minimum of 45,000baht to get work permit) unless kelong. It's never going to be lucrative unless you're going as an expat or you're starting your own business.

3) $$$ - Please prepare a sum of $$$ before setting in cos I believe the first few weeks will definitely drain your resources out cos you will start to go by the life of a tourist and slowly merge back. And also just in case anything happens $$$ is the best thing to get you out of trouble.


Lastly, if you die die still want to work in Thailand, I will recommand you to be a English teacher as it's easier to teach than to work in Thailand but firstly, you must have a TEFL cert before applying all approved institutes will recognised it. As now the education in Thailand are rapidly improving, most of the schools including government ones are employing foreigners to teach but the salary varies from a minimum of 35,000baht province school to 60,000baht international school.

GOOD LUCK!

siamcutey 06-02-2006 10:08 PM

Re: Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rub&Buah
Hi,Gd Day to all Bro.

I met some issue at work & my holiday trip(& also someone special i met over there)make a great change in my thinking..Its not a bad idea overall to work in bangkok..Im actually a hairdresser....

不要冲动

Everyone also have issues at work.

There will always be someone special.

But then not valid reasons why should go work in Thailand

Will face even more issues than before.

SC

naemlo 06-02-2006 10:18 PM

Re: Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rub&Buah

Any brother here shares the same experience or thinking?Pls share watever thought or advise & job opportunities to bro who wish to work in bkk..Hopefully it will be a benificial tread!!Thanks in advance...


Stay n work in SG. Although SG is a shit place but Thailand is not a paradise too. ;)

Rub&Buah 07-02-2006 02:22 AM

Re: Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Thanks to all bros for sharing advise..

I understand its kinda hard for me to secure a job in bkk,Better option will be starting a own business.That will be impossible for me at the current moment.The only way is to work fucking hard & roll as much $$ as possible right now so that i can have better opportunities next time..Dun think there will be any salon in sg which require to post sporean to bkk too..(Even if there is,dun think anyone wants to head over becos of the low wages compare to here,unless he is a fool like me or really "kan De Kai'keke)

Regarding starting out free lance in own rented apartment will be hard too cos require troublesome set up facilities Plus hard to build up clientel.but thanks Bro SOHNI for your idea to give free service to the nite ladies..(Maybe not free but exchange of service,haha)100b will be a reasonable price for a setting or blowdry in bkk..I can accept it if im living in bkk(but if need to convert back to use in sg,u can imagine how it feel..)

Thai language will be a very important criteria so im going to take up for sure..(Duno will i really get to work in thailand but it will come in handy anyway)

Actually my issue at work is not really a bad one,just gimme a idea of balancing..why not go to somewhere i really like to work if it work out to be the same earning & living standard..Also earn different experience in culture(my expectation to survive in bkk is abt 20000b,but i think i might be asking too much base on the standard there?)any bro please advise?

Someone special is part of the reason but not all that makes me wanna work in bkk..i know it will hard to survive on 20000b for 2 person..Plus it doesnt gurantee it will work out in the end even i go all the extent to get that low wage compare to sg...the gal may not even take it for long even if she accept me base on that kinda money..i understand sometime u earn limited $$,even if your partner doesnt mind but you yourself will mind cos u wish to give her comfort & luxury life..Sigh..actually lots of things to ask fellow bro but Shall discuss this in the later part,important thing is still earn more $$,improve skill & knowlege & learn to speak thai so to come in handy anytime..

To me,sg is not really a shitty place.A boring but peaceful one..Afterall we all live & grow up here so we should learn to love & appreciate it..Its our home afterall..If it make you feel shitty,should be certain ppl/system rather than the place..Cheer up everyone!!

Really appreciate all bro for the comments/advise..Pls continue doing so & share...Thanks

siamcutey 07-02-2006 02:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rub&Buah
Thai language will be a very important criteria so im going to take up for sure..(Duno will i really get to work in thailand but it will come in handy anyway)

1 thing at a time 1st. Learn Thai but u want learn at where?

And even if learn must practise. No practise also no use.

SC

bollocksman 07-02-2006 09:21 AM

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Remember this slogan, if you want to enjoy BKK:

Earn your dollars in SGD, spend it in BKK. If you work in BKK and spend there , I can confirm a Monthly salary of THB 30 K is not enuff, including cheonging.

If there's one thing good about working in singapore is the salary, Work hard here , cut back on the cheonging locally and Spend it in BKK on regular trips up, ( it's much better arrangement) :D

Bangkok Master 07-02-2006 11:07 AM

Re: Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rub&Buah
Actually my issue at work is not really a bad one,just gimme a idea of balancing..why not go to somewhere i really like to work if it work out to be the same earning & living standard..Also earn different experience in culture(my expectation to survive in bkk is abt 20000b,but i think i might be asking too much base on the standard there?)any bro please advise?


Firstly, if your expectation is just only 20,000baht for a start, I 'm sure that there are ppl going to employ u but not by the book for the employer as I mentioned before in order to qualify for work permit minimum salary must be 45,000baht.

That means you will be employed like an illegal foreign worker like those in Sg without work permit. And you will have to settle your visa issue as you are on tourist visa, so every month you will have to go for visa run costing 2,000baht per trip. And you also have to beware of immigration checks on working without a permit but this one quite rare unless you damm unlucky to get caught.

I can tell you for sure 20,000baht will definitely won't be enough for you for long. I will break down the cost of the possible expenditure for your reference:

Housing Rent: Average 5,000baht including utility bills - this is already a very low figure as I'm assuming you are renting an studio apartment costing bet 3,000 - 4,000baht which you will be resting your ass in an area which the locals are staying.

Rent - 3,000 - 4,000baht
Utility - 1,000baht unless you don't have aircon will be cheaper
Laundry - 20baht per wash for coin slot machine unless you self-wash

Transportation cum food during working days : Average 3,750baht

Transport - 60baht x 25 days = 1500baht assuming you only take any form of transport except taxi

Food: 90baht x 25 days = 2250baht assuming you take hawker food everyday for breakfast and lunch.

If you are smoker then must add 55baht more per day = 1650baht

Your income = 20,000baht
Housing - 5,000baht
Transport + Food - 3,750baht
Tirak - 5,000baht
Visa Run - 2,000baht

Balance = 4,250baht

Assuming your tirak is super understanding and she requires only 5,000baht from you per month.


You are only left with 4,250baht for the rest of the month and divided by 30 days you are left with 141.6baht per day which is equivalent about SGD$5.90 per day. Not forgetting I had not included your grocery and necessities shopping and also if you or your tirak is sick, there’s medical bills and also you also need to spend on your hand phone bills or top up cards as well.

Above are just my humble calculations for your reference, actually you can already see what’s in line for you if you’re drawing 20,000baht per month but no offences to some who survive on that, but do you really want to go all the way to Thailand and be like that? I can assure you that the longer you stay with your income of 20,000baht, the poorer you will be and in the end you have to get help from Sg eventually and you don’t even have $ for your air ticket back home. Some might think its funny but I had encounter foreigners in this situation before and why they are stuck in Thailand for long is because they are too broke to go home.

CHOOSE WISELY........

singrakthai 07-02-2006 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bangkok Master
Some might think its funny but I had encounter foreigners in this situation before and why they are stuck in Thailand for long is because they are too broke to go home.
CHOOSE WISELY........

Not when if that someone has his parent's 5 room HDB flat to fall back on.... in 9 years 9 months time... *LOL*:D

good analysis and breakdown there... hehehe :D

LengKia 07-02-2006 11:56 AM

Re: Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rub&Buah

After im back,everything goes back to normal & seems boring than before(prehaps my soul still dreaming in bkk)I met some issue at work & my holiday trip(& also someone special i met over there)make a great change in my thinking..Its not a bad idea overall to work in bangkok..Im actually a hairdresser.The fashion culture & hairdressing scene inspire me quite a lot when i was shopping ard the mall..The new generation ppl got quite a great taste in personel groomings..This make me get into the world of fashion in thailand..i calculate before..As a junior i dun earn much in here.living expenses is kinda high in sg,i have nv work in other contry before(which i always wanted to but dont dare or no chance)So why not give a try for 1-2years?If you work in bkk the salary you earn will not be much but living expenses will be lower too.So it work out to be almost the same as sg but i will get to experience different culture & happier(maybe worse?)than my current peaceful but boring life in singapore..The problem is language is a barrier so im going to take up thai language soon..Got to brush up my skill so im able to survive myself in foreign land..

Why did you have the thought of working bkk.
I believe your main reason to work in bangkok is to spend more times with someone you have met recently. Many of us were in your present situation before...kind of in the dreamland. As a tourist in bkk for a week and living there for months are totally different. To be frank, i dun think bangkok living standard is low and i still prefer to live in Singland.

Bangkok Master 07-02-2006 11:59 AM

Re: Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by singrakthai
Not when if that someone has his parent's 5 room HDB flat to fall back on.... in 9 years 9 months time... *LOL*:D


He's different as he got financial support from his gf and also he's a gifted gambler in toto and football.........:D

Moreover after selling off his parents HDB flat, he can actually enjoy a good life in Thailand forever......so he doesn't need to worry about his future.......keke

Zambo 07-02-2006 07:27 PM

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English teacher was a good idea, only need TOEFL cert and can do. What about hairdresser in upmarket hotel - maybe rates better (unfortunately my hair more military type cut and not much expertise at hairdressing)

Moving the tirak to singapore would be a good idea - except I guess there's some prob with this......

KatoeyLover69 08-02-2006 12:21 AM

Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LengKia
Why did you have the thought of working bkk.
I believe your main reason to work in bangkok is to spend more times with someone you have met recently. Many of us were in your present situation before...kind of in the dreamland. As a tourist in bkk for a week and living there for months are totally different. To be frank, i dun think bangkok living standard is low and i still prefer to live in Singland.

I also had a dream of working in Bangkok/Thailand for 20+ years and until today the dream is still unfulfilled.

As advised by the other Bros forget about working in Bangkok with a target income of only 20,000 bahts per month as a Junior Hair-dresser.

My advice to you is to carry on working in S'pore for the next 3 - 5 years, build up your hair-dressing skills, cheong less, spend less and save more. And also to enrol in Thai Language classes straight away - your Thai language skill should improve in about 3 - 5 years. With your savings make an occasional trip to Thailand (say about 2 to 4 times per year).

Lastly don't pin all your hopes on the Thai year whom you have just met. Frankly speaking nobody is sure whether the friendship will last. But no matter what there are plenty of decent Thai ladies who are willing you accept you as their 'friend' once you are able to converse in Thai and have the $$$ to carry on the 'friendship'.

Anyway, good luck to you and hope you achieve your dream

Remarks :
--------I don't know why EVERBODY, including myself, is obsessed by all things Thai once they have travelled to Thailand. Could it be the food, the culture, the people or the 'gong tao' ????? :D

KatoeyLover69 08-02-2006 12:29 AM

Job Opportunities in Bangkok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KatoeyLover69
Lastly don't pin all your hopes on the Thai year whom you have just met. Frankly speaking nobody is sure whether the friendship will last. But no matter what there are plenty of decent Thai ladies who are willing you accept you as their 'friend' once you are able to converse in Thai and have the $$$ to carry on the 'friendship'.

Correction :

Lastly don't pin all your hopes on the Thai girl whom you have just met.


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